Recently, the market around the world have soared quite a lot. Economy has been undergoing a difficult time. I don't really like tech stock, but I still hope to find some with good fundamentals. The process is not at ease though and the target finished time is unlimited. It is going to be extremely slow.
The deal is slightly unfair to shareholders. The buying shares is not similar to a normal situation. I intend to sell some 1113 at around $51. Originally, I planed to swap 1113 with part of 83.
016.HK is too bad in decision makings: it regularly buys high cost lands and reject to exercise "share buybacks" even the market price has >40% discounts of its NAV.
If so, ... over years, its can't increase its dividend payouts and its NAV only moves up slowly even the overall HK real estate prices are raising up over past few years.
Will you consider to sell it out, ... at least partly, and buy others? i.e. do "stocks switching"!^^
Of course as a share holder, we hope they buy lands at cheaper price. But, I think they have considered all factors before making the decision. At the moment, I would evaluate the company continuously. They are still OK in financial sense. I have sold part of 83 (property sector) to reduce risk slightly. Actually, the amount of what I sold is not great.
You "think they have consider all factors before making the decision" is just at your "kindness". We are not insiders.
This land is too countryside! ... and the land cost @>HK$7000/sq.ft. is seemed too optimistic!
Of course 016.HK may not incurs loss in this project (who knows!), but the "profit margin to all shareholders" must not be more than simply exercises "share buybacks" at present share price, isn't it?
Like our investment, we cannot ensure each bet will be successful. But, we would control every bit within the range of risk. We are not insiders. But, the developers are relatively better at evaluating the value of the project than us. I don't object buying shares back when they are undervalued. I even dreamed that they would privatize all shares to make me much richer.
Value Sir,
回覆刪除Happy to hear your sharings.^^
Can you disclose what kind of stocks you had sold? any numbers?
Intention of changing a small part of 83 to other large property stocks
刪除part of 2314 and 1830
The whole selling only consists of around 3% of portfolio.
Thanks again for your sharings. You now have more bullets for shopping!
刪除Today HK market atmosphere is poor, ... seems if america market continuously goes down, our HS Index may even worser later.
I think that holding more those "with low PB + cash rich + high-dividend-yield" stocks are safer.
Recently, the market around the world have soared quite a lot.
刪除Economy has been undergoing a difficult time. I don't really like tech stock, but I still hope to find some with good fundamentals. The process is not at ease though and the target finished time is unlimited. It is going to be extremely slow.
Hello 見老網友出文,特留言問好.
回覆刪除謝謝。我一直有追看你的post.
刪除追求安穏，滿足現況，未嘗不是一件好事，明白人生階段所要的並不相同。
祝生活愉快！
Value Sir,
回覆刪除016.HK's interim results is OK!
Good Luck!
^_^
Compared with others, SHK is obviously better.
刪除Of course, I still need to estimate business environment. The risk has not disappeared yet.
At share price HK$120+, 016.HK has no good prospects if it doesn't exercise "share buybacks".
刪除The most influence on the company would be the property prospect. I mainly pay close attention on it.
刪除The whole property market prospects is out of the control of any one developer or at least too remote to control.
刪除Financial management for listed companies is very important, and is controllable by the management.
For 016.HK, "Share Buybacks" can effectively maximise its NAV/share and future years' EPS.
Good Luck to all shareholders!
^_^
Most property companies have strong fundamental financially. I just have to concentrate on whether they purchase land agressively or not.
刪除作者已經移除這則留言。
刪除From the annual results, we have known the targets that you are going to keep or get rid of.
刪除Finally, 001.HK begins "share buybacks"!
刪除Victor Li's management is too bad! (016.HK also!) 001.HK could exercise "share buybacks" ... starting from <HK$50 in last year.
016.HK still has no such thinking. It missed the chance at <HK$100 and an easy methoid in maximising company's NAV/share.
The deal is slightly unfair to shareholders. The buying shares is not similar to a normal situation. I intend to sell some 1113 at around $51.
刪除Originally, I planed to swap 1113 with part of 83.
Value Sir,
回覆刪除016.HK is too bad in decision makings: it regularly buys high cost lands and reject to exercise "share buybacks" even the market price has >40% discounts of its NAV.
If so, ... over years, its can't increase its dividend payouts and its NAV only moves up slowly even the overall HK real estate prices are raising up over past few years.
Will you consider to sell it out, ... at least partly, and buy others? i.e. do "stocks switching"!^^
Of course as a share holder, we hope they buy lands at cheaper price. But, I think they have considered all factors before making the decision.
刪除At the moment, I would evaluate the company continuously. They are still OK in financial sense.
I have sold part of 83 (property sector) to reduce risk slightly. Actually, the amount of what I sold is not great.
Meanwhile, I bought a bit of 2800. That is not much though.
刪除Value Sir,
刪除Good morning.
You "think they have consider all factors before making the decision" is just at your "kindness". We are not insiders.
This land is too countryside! ... and the land cost @>HK$7000/sq.ft. is seemed too optimistic!
Of course 016.HK may not incurs loss in this project (who knows!), but the "profit margin to all shareholders" must not be more than simply exercises "share buybacks" at present share price, isn't it?
Like our investment, we cannot ensure each bet will be successful. But, we would control every bit within the range of risk.
刪除We are not insiders. But, the developers are relatively better at evaluating the value of the project than us.
I don't object buying shares back when they are undervalued. I even dreamed that they would privatize all shares to make me much richer.